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| − | I'm basing the following off of sources I've gathered [http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Role-Playing/Fantasy/ here] (see Real History -> Prices), and [http://www.roxie.org/books/shoulders/notes2.html here], and will net a few more as time goes by). The basic assumption is that character's will be purchasing things with silver coins that have 1% of a pound's worth of fine (.999 purity) silver. | + | I'm basing the following off of sources I've gathered [http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Role-Playing/Fantasy/ here] (see Real History -> Prices), [http://www.enworld.org/archive/index.php/t-3848.html here], and [http://www.roxie.org/books/shoulders/notes2.html here], and will net a few more as time goes by). The basic assumption is that character's will be purchasing things with silver coins that have 1% of a pound's worth of fine (.999 purity) silver. |
| − | * 1 Pound = | + | By this unit one pound Tower Weight is equal to ~71.428571428571428571428571428571 coins. For... simplicity's sake, this gets rounded to 72. This still makes the silver coin a pretty large unit, but a bit more tolerable. |
| − | * 1 Crown = | + | |
| − | * 1 | + | * 1 Pound = 72 coins |
| − | * 1 Farthing = . | + | * 1 Crown = 18 coins |
| − | * 1 Mark = | + | * 1 Shilling = 3.6 coins |
| + | * 1 Pence = .3 coins | ||
| + | * 1 Farthing = .075 coins | ||
| + | * 1 Mark = 48 coins | ||
Obviously, numbers are going to be rounded and adjusted slightly, especially as prices vary over time. Even then, this is a rough list, and as the first source link mentions, most such economies are barter economies - even with the powerful influence of the Guild or similarly spanning organization. | Obviously, numbers are going to be rounded and adjusted slightly, especially as prices vary over time. Even then, this is a rough list, and as the first source link mentions, most such economies are barter economies - even with the powerful influence of the Guild or similarly spanning organization. | ||
* Gold is assumed to be 12 times the value of silver in my Exalted games, 10 times in D&D. | * Gold is assumed to be 12 times the value of silver in my Exalted games, 10 times in D&D. | ||
| − | * Dinars are halved and quartered in Exalted (silver bits). In D&D, silver coins still have their tenth-value copper counterparts. | + | * Dinars are halved and quartered in Exalted (silver bits). This is still a fair amount of coin. |
| − | * Prices will be adjusted to roughly 1450 terms. | + | * In D&D, silver coins still have their tenth-value copper counterparts, which gets close enough to the farthing to be useful. |
| + | * Prices will be adjusted to roughly 1450 terms. The reference refers to the price, or prices, in pence from the source material, followed by date. | ||
== Tools == | == Tools == | ||
{| border="1" | {| border="1" | ||
|+ '''Tool Price List''' | |+ '''Tool Price List''' | ||
| − | ! Item !! Reference !! Price | + | ! Item !! Reference !! Price !! Weight |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Anvil || | + | | Anvil || 240 (1514) || coins || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Armorer's Tools <sup>1</sup> || | + | | Armorer's Tools <sup>1</sup> || 3,323 (1514) || coins || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Auger || | + | | Auger || 3 (1457) || 1 coin || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Ax || | + | | Ax || 5 (1457) || 1.5 coins || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Bellows || | + | | Bellows || 360 (1514) || 100 coins || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Chisel || | + | | Chisel || 4 (1514) || 1.5 coins || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Hammer || | + | | Hammer || 8 (1514) || 2.5 coins || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Hammer (good) || | + | | Hammer (good) || 32 (1514) || 10 coins || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Mason's Tools <sup>1</sup> || | + | | Mason's Tools <sup>1</sup> || 9 (1350) || 18 coins || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Shovel || . | + | | Shovel || 1.5 (1457) || half coin || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Spade || . | + | | Spade || 1.5 (1457) || half coin || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Plow Foot Iron || | + | | Plow Foot Iron || 5 (1350) || 1 coin || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Spinning Wheel || | + | | Spinning Wheel || 10 (1457) || 3 coins || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Vise || | + | | Vise || 160 (1514) || 50 coins || |
|- | |- | ||
| − | | Yoke || | + | | Yoke || 24 (1350) || 12 coins || |
|} | |} | ||
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| − | * '''1:''' Horse prices in general varied wildly. This is a pretty extreme case | + | * '''1:''' Horse prices in general varied wildly. This is a pretty extreme case, but it would still be a pretty fine beast even outside a fantasy setting. |
* '''2:''' A Wether is a castrated ram. | * '''2:''' A Wether is a castrated ram. | ||
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At the time point used, paper comes significantly down in price, and roughly matches vellum. Even still, this implies the price of a dead, properly slain animal of not insignificant size for each and every quire of parchment, to say nothing of more expensive sheets of paper and vellum. Papyrus is more labor intensive, but at least you won't be touching a dead animal (see [[Legend of the Five Rings]] - ahem). | At the time point used, paper comes significantly down in price, and roughly matches vellum. Even still, this implies the price of a dead, properly slain animal of not insignificant size for each and every quire of parchment, to say nothing of more expensive sheets of paper and vellum. Papyrus is more labor intensive, but at least you won't be touching a dead animal (see [[Legend of the Five Rings]] - ahem). | ||
| − | Sheep and goatskin went for minimum of 4 pence in 1322, which suggests a blank quire of parchment might cost 4 coins of silver (half coin per large page, or quarter coin for a small one). Paper or vellum would be twice as much. | + | Sheep and goatskin went for minimum of 4 pence in 1322, which suggests a blank quire of parchment might cost 4 coins of silver (half coin per large page, or quarter coin for a small one), and where available, papyrus would be similar. Paper or vellum would be twice as much. |
Revision as of 20:38, 13 February 2007
I'm basing the following off of sources I've gathered here (see Real History -> Prices), here, and here, and will net a few more as time goes by). The basic assumption is that character's will be purchasing things with silver coins that have 1% of a pound's worth of fine (.999 purity) silver.
By this unit one pound Tower Weight is equal to ~71.428571428571428571428571428571 coins. For... simplicity's sake, this gets rounded to 72. This still makes the silver coin a pretty large unit, but a bit more tolerable.
- 1 Pound = 72 coins
- 1 Crown = 18 coins
- 1 Shilling = 3.6 coins
- 1 Pence = .3 coins
- 1 Farthing = .075 coins
- 1 Mark = 48 coins
Obviously, numbers are going to be rounded and adjusted slightly, especially as prices vary over time. Even then, this is a rough list, and as the first source link mentions, most such economies are barter economies - even with the powerful influence of the Guild or similarly spanning organization.
- Gold is assumed to be 12 times the value of silver in my Exalted games, 10 times in D&D.
- Dinars are halved and quartered in Exalted (silver bits). This is still a fair amount of coin.
- In D&D, silver coins still have their tenth-value copper counterparts, which gets close enough to the farthing to be useful.
- Prices will be adjusted to roughly 1450 terms. The reference refers to the price, or prices, in pence from the source material, followed by date.
Tools
| Item | Reference | Price | Weight |
|---|---|---|---|
| Anvil | 240 (1514) | coins | |
| Armorer's Tools 1 | 3,323 (1514) | coins | |
| Auger | 3 (1457) | 1 coin | |
| Ax | 5 (1457) | 1.5 coins | |
| Bellows | 360 (1514) | 100 coins | |
| Chisel | 4 (1514) | 1.5 coins | |
| Hammer | 8 (1514) | 2.5 coins | |
| Hammer (good) | 32 (1514) | 10 coins | |
| Mason's Tools 1 | 9 (1350) | 18 coins | |
| Shovel | 1.5 (1457) | half coin | |
| Spade | 1.5 (1457) | half coin | |
| Plow Foot Iron | 5 (1350) | 1 coin | |
| Spinning Wheel | 10 (1457) | 3 coins | |
| Vise | 160 (1514) | 50 coins | |
| Yoke | 24 (1350) | 12 coins |
- 1: This is a complete set, including tools for plate. At the price of such things, you do the best job you can, and these would be of fine quality. Simpler, less capable tools would cost a tenth or less do work only with lamellar or mail.
- 2: The source price only lists three unnamed tools, so I work off quadrupling the price, as the entire set of tools was supposed to be a fairly significant cost.
Animals
Draft Horse, Cow, Wether (castrated ram), Ox, Sheep, Chicken, Goose, Pig Goose, Ox, Pig, Sheep, Wether
| Item | Reference | Price |
|---|---|---|
| Cow | 43.5 (1350) | 70 coins |
| Cow (good) | 57.75 (1310) | 200 coins |
| Chicken | .2 (1350) | quarter coin |
| Draft Horse | 46.2 (1250) | 200 coins |
| Draft Horse (good) | 92.4 (1250) | 400 coins |
| Duck | .5 (1322) | 1 coin |
| Falcon | 92.4 (1350) | 150 coins |
| Goose | 2.3-3.1 (1375) | 4.5 coins |
| Ox | 60.5 (1350) | 95 coins |
| Pig | 13.75 (1338) | 22 coins |
| Pigeon | .1 (1322) | quarter coin |
| Riding Horse (High Grade) | 924 (1250) | 4,000 coins |
| Sheep | 6.5 (1350) | 10.5 coins |
| Warhorse | 370 (1250) | 1,600 coins |
| Warhorse (High Grade) 1 | 7,392 (1250) | 30,000 coins |
| Wether 2 | 3.75 (1338) | 7 coins |
- 1: Horse prices in general varied wildly. This is a pretty extreme case, but it would still be a pretty fine beast even outside a fantasy setting.
- 2: A Wether is a castrated ram.
Books
Books in the Middle Ages were typically measured by pecia, or quire. Though specific sizes varied, this often referred to four leaves (eight pages) for larger pages (two columns per page) and twice as many leaves (sixteen pages) for one-column pages, holding over 30,000 characters and some 7,500 words. Near as my own research can tell, the Bible was frequently copied with about 150 pecia, or 600 to 1,200 pages. Of course, this varied wildly, but it was a monstrous book.
In England, the value of a Bible in 1310 was said to be 33 pounds, 6 shillings, and 8 pence, or 3,080 coins. This suggests a price of about 70 coins per quire, fully illuminated and bound.
Other books of unnamed length went for nearly a pound each, though this is a bit harder to determine, since illumination can be quite expensive. Writing material came in one of a few varieties:
- Papyrus - the first 'paper', the plant only grows in subtropical climes, though other reed-like plants can be used depending on the campaign and specific environment.
- Parchment - sheepskin, goatskin, or calfskin - usually referred to the former two. Made by drying out, stretching, cleaning and scraping the skin.
- Vellum - typically calfskin, but often meant a high-quality form of parchment, so other sheepskins or goatskins might be so lucky.
- Paper - the original wood-based paper invented in China was prone to destroying itself over time via high acid content, while Europeans tended to use linen or hemp.
At the time point used, paper comes significantly down in price, and roughly matches vellum. Even still, this implies the price of a dead, properly slain animal of not insignificant size for each and every quire of parchment, to say nothing of more expensive sheets of paper and vellum. Papyrus is more labor intensive, but at least you won't be touching a dead animal (see Legend of the Five Rings - ahem).
Sheep and goatskin went for minimum of 4 pence in 1322, which suggests a blank quire of parchment might cost 4 coins of silver (half coin per large page, or quarter coin for a small one), and where available, papyrus would be similar. Paper or vellum would be twice as much.
